Saturday, September 26, 2009

The Next Prop 8?

This November will mark the one year anniversary of the passing Proposition 8, which added the section “only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California” to the state constitution. Though the proposition passed by a 52.5% to 47.5% margin, or about 500,000 votes, many Californians remain passionate about overturning the ban.

Last Thursday, a coalition of groups supporting same-sex marriage submitted ballot measure language for a potential initiative repealing Proposition 8. These groups, led by Love Honor Cherish, hope to overthrow the law, which was upheld by the California Supreme Court in May. But these efforts only mark the first step; they will need about 700,000 signatures from registered California voters before April 2010, as well as millions of dollars.

While thousands of people are outraged over the passing of Prop 8, not all same-sex marriage proponents are unified in the push for a 2010 ballot measure. They believe that the measure will more likely prevail in 2012, during the next presidential election. Equality California, the state’s largest gay rights group, announced in August that it would wait until 2012 to propose an amendment. Public opinion polls suggest Californians remains closely divided on the issue of gay marriage, and some gay rights groups, such as Equality California, believe waiting until 2012 could help the repeal gain both popularity and sympathy. However, they did state that they would support the measure if it does make it onto the ballot.

The day after Love Honor Cherish and other groups announced their decision to put the ballot initiative to voters in 2010, former President Clinton publicized his recent decision to change his personal stance on same-sex marriage. During an interview with CNN’s Anderson Cooper, he said that he believes states should ultimately decide on same-sex marriage, but he is not personally opposed, as he once was. In the interview, he said:

"I was against the constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage nation-wide, and I still think that the American people should be able to play this out in debates. But me, Bill Clinton personally, I changed my position. I am no longer opposed to that. I think if people want to make commitments that last a lifetime, they ought to be able to do it."

While many Californians, and now former President Clinton, are swaying in support of repealing Proposition 8, some are taking a drastically different approach. On September 1, 2009, Sacramentan John Marcotte submitted proposed legislation to the Attorney General that would add a different initiative to the 2010 state ballot. Entitled the “2010 California Marriage Protection Act,” this legislation would essentially ban divorce in California. He calls it “a logical extension of Prop 8.”

Marcotte, a fervent proponent of Prop 8, describes himself as “a firm believer in traditional family values.” He claims that though the legislation would essentially be diminishing people’s rights, it would be to protect traditional marriage, therefore attracting the same voters who voted “yes” on Prop 8.

On his website, captions like “You said ‘Til death do us part.’ You’re not dead yet” and “Jesus still loves you if you get divorced—just not as much as before” pan across the main page. According to website, the campaign has raised $1105.94 from 45 contributors since September 4. This CNN piece features an interview with him

This would never pass…right? The whole campaign seems pretty ridiculous, but then again, not even a year ago, California voted to ban same-sex marriages and revoke basic rights to a huge community.

6 comments:

  1. Wouldn’t that just be priceless if divorce was illegalized in California? I can only imagine people crossing our borders to legally get rid of spouse. How funny. As for some organizations wanting to wait until 2012, I can’t imagine telling one of my friends that they will have to wait two more years to get the rights to marry the one they love. I believe that they day Prop 8 passed was one of the saddest days in California history. And I love how these bible thumpers use religion to oppress others. John Marcotte is my personal hero in all of this. If he’s joking: touché. If he’s serious: he’s making himself and everyone on his side look ridiculously stupid and naive. Never in a million years will his bill get passed. Unless, the Prop 8 opposition all got together and played a humorous political joke on the Prop 8 supporters. I’d personally love to see it.

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  2. Religious beliefs really needs to stay out of this whole debate. I got married about to years ago in a civil court in Las Vegas and even though I was legally married my church did not recognize my marriage as valid because I wasn't married by a priest. I had to go threw pre-marriage classes, even though I had already been married for about 6 months, and go through another ceremony to be officially married. I don't understand why religious leaders are so concerned with gay marriage becoming legal if they don't consider civil marriages legit to begin with.

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  3. Johnny Trousers once had a gay man try to pull down his trousers, and needless to say Johnny Trousers set that poop pusher straight, not literally and no pun intended. Johnny Trousers shoved his fist so far down that gayboys throat he could smell Johnny Trouser's armpit.

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  4. For proponents of legalizing same-sex marriages here in California, still freshly agitated after the passing of Prop 8, the plan to wait until 2012 to make another legislative push is tough to swallow. I can understand how putting human equality on the back-burner for just around three years is bound to be very frustrating for those most invested in overturning the proposition. However, being tactful and organized, not rash and rushed, in garnering the needed support and funding is probably a smart play. It is becoming apparent to me that the general opinion on same-sex marriage in America-- especially with the younger generation-- is rapidly shifting away from the more Puritan background we've long associated with. Maybe even allowing a couple more years could help build a larger voting base for the younger, more progressive generation.

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  5. As much as I support the 2010 ballot measure to redefine marriage, I think it is sadly too soon to vote on such a measure considering Prop 8 just passed almost a year ago. I agree with Equality California in waiting until 2012, which would allow California to rally more support. Also, I congratulate Bill Clinton. The country needs more influential people who are willing to speak out and express their views, and encourage others to do so.

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  6. The longer the better. If this fails twice, it will have a lot bigger of a hill to climb to succeed. If they wait until 2012, more young people will be able to vote, and more young people will be encouraged to vote, as it is not an off year election, which traditionally skews towards the older demographic

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